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Type
different types of Mezonot
1. A cooked food – this is not considered bread-like and
will always be mezonot.[1] 1. Examples - porridge,
oatmeal, noodles, soup nuts (deep fried) couscous, kugals,
blintzes, doughnuts[2], and egg
rolls.[3] 2. A baked food – which is called Pas HaBah
Bekisnin is similar to bread, and it is only mezonot when eaten as a snack, however if one eats the
amount of a “shiur sueda” then
the Bracha is hamotzei. (We will define this term
below) 1. Examples -
borekas, hotdogs in dough shell, pretzels, crackers,
biscuits, (matzah for Sephardim), and cake.[4] 3. If pancakes are fried with in only as
much oil is needed to prevent it from burning then it is considered a baked
food. However, if it is fried with a small amount of oil (more than necessary
to prevent burning but less than deep fried) there’s a dispute whether it’s
considered cooked or baked and so one if one has a shiur
seuda of these type of
pancakes one should first make HaMotzei on regular
bread.[5] Shiur Seudah For Ashkenazim
(Sefardim see below)
Whenever
one eats the amount of Shiur Sueda
(amount of a meal) of Pas Haba Bikisnin
one should wash, say Netilat Yadayim,
Hamotzei, and Birkat HaMazon.[6] How
large is the Shiur Sueda?
Some poskim say that it is 4 KeBaytzim,
while others say that it’s the amount an average person regularly eats for a
meal.[7] To
avoid dispute one should eat less than 4 KeBaytzim
and make Mezonot or eat more than the average meal
and make HaMotzei. After the fact, if one did eat
between these two amounts then if one isn’t full one should make Al HaMichya and if one is full one should make Birkat HaMazon.[8] To
clarify the second opinion, it’s clear that the average meal varies from
country to country and generation to generation. Rather the amount of an
average meal depends on the amount normally eaten by people in his natural age
group (because elderly people eat a different amount from teenagers and
teenagers from children) of the same gender (because woman eat a different
amount from men).[9] If one
ate Pas HaBah Bekisnin together
with foods that are normally eaten in a meal (such as meat, fish, eggs, etc.) and
one ate an amount of Pas HaBah Bekisnin
equal to the amount of bread normally eaten in a meal then all of these foods
count towards the Shiur Seudah.[10] Some
say that the other foods eaten in the meal are counted towards the total only
if one already ate 4 Kebaytzim of Pas HaBah Bekisnin besides the other
foods[11],
while others say that even if one only has one Kezayit
of Pas HaBah Bekisnin
together with the amount eaten in a meal of other meal foods one should make HaMotzei.[12] According
to this second opinion if a person at a wedding is interested in avoiding
washing and substitutes crackers for bread then since
the crackers and other foods amount to a Shiur Sueda one would have to wash and make HaMotzei
on the crackers.[13] In terms of timing, all food that’s eaten during a meal is
included as long as one kezayit of Pas HaBah Bekisnin is eaten within Kedi Achilat Pras
(4 minutes).[14] Amount of an average meal
The Shiur Seuda is an objective
amount. Nonetheless, one can easily calculate the amount of the average meal by
knowing one’s personal average amount of a meal as long as one is a normal
eater. If however, you know you eat more or less then most people do then one
can’t judge the average meal by yourself. [15] If you
eat less than most people do even if you personally are full, don't betch. If you eat more than most people do and are still
not full you should bentch.[16] Shiur for Sephardim
Sephardim
hold that like the opinion which says that the Shiur Seudah is either 3 or 4 KeBaytzim.
In order to avoid dispute one should eat less than 3 KeBaytzim
and make Mezonot or more than 4 KeBaytzim
and make Hamotzei.[17] Sephardim
hold that the other foods one eats together with the Pas HaBah
Bekisnin don’t count towards the amount of eating the
Shiur Seudah.[18] Size of a Kazayit
1) Many
Sephardim go by weight, while others go by Volume and both are acceptable and
each should keep their own minhag.
[1] Shulchan Aruch 208:2, Chaye Adam 54:2, Halachos of Brachos (chap 27, pg 481-3) [2] Vezot HaBracha (chap 4, pg 26) [3] Halachos of Brachos (pg 495) [4] Vezot HaBracha (chap 4, pg 26-7) [5] Halachos of Brachos (chap 27, pg 493) based on Mishna Brurah 168:56 [6] Shulchan Aruch 168:6 [7] Mishna Brurah 168:24 [8] Halachos of Brachos (chap 27, pg 488-9) [9] Biur Halacha 168:6 D”H Af Al Pi, Sh”t Igrot Moshe OC 3:33, Halachos of Brachos (chap 27, pg 487-8, note t and 24.1) [10] Halachos of Brachos (chap 27, pg 490) [11] Vezot HaBracha (chap 4, pg 32) quoting Rav Vosner and Rav Shlomo Zalman [12] Vezot HaBracha (chap 4, pg 32) quoting Rav Sheinburg, inferring it from Rav Moshe, and quoting Rav Elyashiv who was concerned for this opinion [13] Igrot Moshe 3:32, Halachos of Brachos (chap 27, pg 491) [14] Yalkut Yosef (Birkat HaMazon pg 130 and 133), Vezot HaBracha (chap 4, pg 27) [15] Vezot HaBracha (chap 4, pg 30) [16] Shulchan Aruch 168:6 [17] Yalkut Yosef 168:8-9 [18] Yalkut Yosef (Birkat HaMazon pg 133) |
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